Lion vs Tiger comparison
The tiger is the largest of the cats and is a perfect killing machine with a superior combination of power, cunning and agility. On the other hand, A lion has an appearance to frighten even the mightiest of animals. There have been some real fights between the two kings of the jungle. So, what do the evidences and experts (and common sense) say about who will win a fight between the two, or rather, if there are 100 tiger-lion fights which one will have more victories?
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The image below gives a vivid comparison of apparent and actual size of these felines. The image is self-explanatory. There are some links to video in this post where, when a lion stands near a tiger, you can have a good comparative view that conforms with the image here. The videos and this image clearly explain why a lion looks bigger even though an average Bengal tiger is actually bigger than an average African lion. The tiger being shown here is most probably an IndoChinese one (going by the color and stripes). Bengal/Siberian tigers are even bigger.
Another size comparison image, taken from National Geographic:
This image compares a 6′ man with a lion (without the mane), a Bengal tiger and a Siberian tiger. Even though it is from National Geographic, I’d say it definitely exaggerates the size of the Siberian tiger!
Here are more size comparisons from National Geographic (clock-wise from top-left: Polar Bear, Brown Bear, Black Bear and Grizzly). Notice that, Grizzly bear has been considered as separate from Brown bear and the Grizzly and Black Bear images are actually the same!
If these size comparisons from National Geographic are to be believed, even a Grizzly doesn’t stand a chance against a Siberian tiger, let alone an African lion!
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THE KING OF BEASTS:
Lion is known to be the King of Beasts across most cultures of the world. This is mostly because of a lion’s appearance and partly because of the social structure of a pride and the lion’s role in the pride. A lion does possess a royal look and attitude. Add to that a tremendous roar that can be heard over miles on the Savannah. Also, living in a pride, a lion doesn’t need to hide itself or avoid any other animals including human beings. A lions lives in the open and controls its territory like a true king, sporting a ‘kingly’ mane and heading a pride that feeds him. The Bible of the Christians and the Geeta of the Hindus both mention the lion as the king of the beasts. So it has got accepted as a sign of royalty all over the world from as early as the Roman empire. Have a look at this magnificent lion (Shambala zoo).
Vital Statistics:
[There are a lot of variation in the figures found online. I tried to collect them from reputed instituion and/or govt sources]
- Largest Lion in captivity: 806 lbs (366 kg)
- Largest Lion found in the wild: 702 lbs (318 kg) and 11′ (3.35 m)
- Average size (mode) of African Lion: 410 lbs (186 kg) and 8’10″ (2.7 m)
- ** Lions stand around 1.15m (including mane) at shoulder as opposed to 1m of a tiger **
The King of The Kings:
When you think of a lion, you think of an African lion. The Asiatic ones are somewhat smaller in size and relatively unknown living in the tiger country. There is no significant variation in size among the African lions. In some online forums it is claimed that Ngorongoro Crater lions are the largest sub-specis of lions. But there is no base to that claim.. The Tsavo lions are generally considered more aggressive, but they are naturally maneless.
Choice: African lion (with mane).
Relative advantages over a tiger:
- Thick protective mane. It also makes a lion look much bigger, heavier and taller than it really is. This is of immediate psychological disadvantage to any animal fighting a lion. It’s downright scary to see a lion coming towards you roaring. A lioness, even if it were of similar size, wouldn’t inspire as much awe. From the fight videos, it does seem that the mane is of huge advantage to the lion. In the only fight-video of a maneless (shaved) lion, the lion seemed too easy to beat by the tiger. The mane is the biggest weapon for a lion – both for defence and for scaring off the opponent.
- More massively built shoulders. Both the cats have extremely powerful and muscular ‘shoulders’ and forelimbs.
- Taller structure. This makes the lion more intimidating. Also, this somewhat compensates for the weaker hindquarters.
Here’s a very good video showcasing lions.
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Living largely secretive life and attacking preys using stealth, cunning and agility, a tiger is mostly considered a villain (like Sher Khan in Kipling’s Jungle Book). Moreover, the man-eaters in India have further maligned the image of a tiger. Not much is still known about the lives of the tigers in the wild and hence a lot of the information considered as ‘facts’ about tigers are merely informed guesses. Since the chance of encountering a tiger in the wild is way less than the chance of encountering a wild lion, a lot of data about tigers reflect either only a small population of them, or are based on indirect studies, or both. Also, a tiger’s unwillingness to fight without necessity has often been seen as lack of courage and aggression. Look at these majestic Bengal tigers.
Vital Statistics:
[There are a lot of variation in the figures found online. I tried to collect them from reputed instituion and/or govt sources]
The Greatest Cat:
Tigers vary in size as well as in aggressiveness (supposedly, at least), not only across different sub-species but also depending on the region they inhabit. Bengal tigers found in Nepal, Bhutan and in Assam, Uttaranchal & West Bengal (Northern part) states in India (collectively, the tigers of the Terrai and Duars) are larger than Bengal tigers found in Sunderbans and Rajasthan. The Sumatran tigers are supposedly the fiercest but they are the smallest sub-species of tigers. The Siberian tigesr are the biggest, but considered to be less agile and less aggressive than a Bengal tiger. The Bengal tigers are most widely touted as the most skillful and overall best breed of tigers – nearly as big (male ~230 Kg, ~3 m) as the Siberian ones but much more fierce, agile and strong. The Bengal tigers of the Terrai are often bigger than average Siberian tigers (Update on Aug 4, 2007: I’ve found this in many a trustworthy source that the Bengals are now considered larger than the Siberians).
Choice: Bengal/Siberian Tiger.
Relative Advantages Over a Lion:
- Longer and often larger size. Now this is often posed by the people who pick a tiger to win, as a serious threat to a lion. A larger yet more agile body of a tiger is really a serious threat to a lion. But this alone can not be a decisive factor.
- More powerful back legs. This helps a tiger to leap more, to spring from a disadvantageous position and to make sudden moves. This is of tremendous advantage to the tiger. This gives the tiger the ability to rest its weight on the hind legs and make swipes with both of the front legs. Plus, the strong hindquarters allow them to attack from the side and spring from unexpected/disadvantageous corners. Moreover, a tiger makes faster swipes than a lion. Tigers are more agile than lions.
- Skills of ambush attacking, tree-climbing, swimming etc are handy if the going gets tough. Plus, tigers are faster runners. These are all defence mechanisms for a tiger just as the mane is for a lion.
- Longer canines, longer claws and larger paws. These are the ultimate weapons of a cat. Tigers have considerable advantage here.
And here’s a video showcasing tigers. And I found this video to be very interesting. Here is more of Siberian tigers.
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Myths About (and Against) Lions and Tigers:
Myth 1: [The lion has a stronger forequarter] The fact is, the lion has slightly more massively built shoulders and the tiger has more developed legs. Overall a tiger is more massively built than a lion. Even pound for pound, a tiger has anatomy-advantage over a lion in the forequarters.
Myth 2: [The tiger hunts larger preys] The fact is, both these cats generally hunt similar sized preys (the size of wildebeast) and both these cats may go for larger preys once in a while. In some areas, these cats get ‘specialized’ in hunting certain kinds of preys. In Nagarahole National Park in India, the tigers prefer to hunt the large gaurs.
Myth 3: [The lion has more bite force] The fact is, pound for ponud, a tiger has more bite force qutient, though the difference is not huge.
Myth 4: [Tigers are more ferocious] The fact is, There has never been such a claim by any scientist or noted animal observer. This is a bizare claim with no base. Both these animals show similar ferocity (of course, ferocity is not quantifiable) when drawn into a fight.
Myth 5: [Lions have larger heads] The fact is, an average lion has (surprisingly) the same size of head as an average Bengal/Siberian/Indochinese tiger. The tiger’s head is just a little wider and shorter, allowing it to have more bite force.
Myth 6: [Lions just fight and tigers just hunt] The fact is, nomadic male lions hunt regularly and skillfully. Even resident male lions hunt sometimes. On the other hand, tigers fight, often to death, with other tigers. Tigers fight fairly often, so much so that around 30% of tiger deaths (for Bengal tigers) occur due to territorial fights. Also, tigers fight with leopards, bears, wild dogs, elephants etc. Most of the tiger vs tiger and lion vs lion fights end after one combatant escapes while some fights in both the cases may result in severe injury or death.
Myth 7: [The lion has better fighting techniques] The fact is, the tiger shows better ‘skills’ of fighting. It can swipe much faster than a lion, can use both the front legs at the same time for making swipes, is faster and more agile than the lion.
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THE LIKELY WINNER
Captive animals:
Captive animals often behave differently than the wild ones. In a fight between captive animals, a tiger will have the advantage of size and power. A captive lion will lack the fighting experience of a wild one.
Let’s now talk about ‘wild’ animals, ie, both the animals are at their prime and have been captured fresh from their natural habitat and are in good natural condition.
In small pit/cage:
Lion will have a slender advantage if the fight is in a small closed area since it may get the benefit of taller structure and the mane and the tiger may feel the lack of space. Agility may not be a big factor. But it may really depend on the size of the respective animal. If the tiger is significantly larger than the lion, the lion may not get a chance to do much harm to the tiger.
In a large area (forest/grassland or even a large ‘cage’):
Tiger may win easily. The stronger hindquarters come into play here. It helps to keep balance and make fast movements.
If the two animals are ignorant of each other’s presence at the beginning, it will really be a tiger’s game. Siberian tigers are sometimes reported to predate on female/young brown bears. The female bears may be larger than the tigers and as aggressive as the male ones. But the tiger stalks the bears and then and hunts them. In a similar way, if a tiger and a lion are released in a forest/grassland, a tiger’s stealth-attacks may be decisive.
Why The Tiger Has a Better Chance of Winning:
There is a popular notion that a lion is meant for fighting whereas a tiger is meant for hunting and hence a lion will win in a tiger-lion fight. Some people mention that like a pitbull can own larger dogs, a lion can defeat a tiger since, like the pitbull, the lion is meant to be a fighter. This is a bad comparison. That a lion plays the role of a fighter in a pride doesn’t make the tiger a non-fighter and just a predator. A tiger predates AND fights. And that’s why they are way more active than lions. Over their lifespan, a lion fights other lions less than ten times. This may be well less than the number of tiger-fights a tiger has to face over food/mating/territory. A lion may have to fight off hyenas, too. A tiger, on the other hand, fights with leopards, wolves, dholes and black/brown bears over food/territory.
The ‘strength’ analysis is of course an ideal one. A lot of them may prove to be invalid in real fights. Most of the ‘documents’, ‘eye-witness accounts’ and vidoes (though most of them are manipulated to suit the story of movies) show that there is more chance of a tiger winning the fight than a lion winning it. It seems that a tiger might be reluctant to fight at first. But if compelled to, it’s a much better and more powerful fighter than a lion.
Size does matter. An average Bengal/Siberian tiger measures 10 feet and 500 lbs. Can measure up to 11 feet and ~620 lbs. Lions average 9 feet and 410 lbs. Can grow as large as 10 feet and 530 lbs. (Not considering the more extreme cases for either cat). Clearly, tigers have an advantage. Additionally, the build of a tiger provides much more balance and agility. The weight of a tiger is more evenly distributed over its body-length than that of a lion. A tiger’s tail, being heavier compared to a lion’s, makes it easier for the tiger to turn. And if the animal with larger size also has greater agility, it’s the one that should win more fights. Add to that the advantages of bigger paws, faster swipes and longer canines!
An African lion, hailing from a place where it doesn’t get much competition from other animals, attacks from the word ‘go’. On the other hand, a tiger, coming from places where it fights bears, wild dogs etc, assesses the situation first and then goes for the kill. (Ok, lions, too, live alongside wild dogs. But they don’t clash much since lions live in prides. For the same reason, lions rarely fight leopards). For this reason, some animal trainers and experts have mentioned the tiger as an intelligent boxer. Additionally, the Bengal tigers are widely considered as being extremely aggressive when drawn into a fight.
In 100 fights between the two in any natural setting and in non-extreme climate, I’d bet a Bengal tiger will own an African lion 80 times provided there is no bias in choosing the animals. I’d expect an average Bengal tiger of the Terrai (see above) with 530 lbs and 10′, to make a short work of an average South African lion (~410 lbs and 8.5′). Even pound for pound, a tiger is stronger. If it’s a smaller-than-average Bengal tiger, with size and wight similar to the lion’s, it should be 70-30 in favor of the tiger.
Overall, there may be very few really big and aggressive lions that may defeat a Bengal/Siberian tiger, but on an average a tiger will win against a lion almost everytime.
Source: http://indrajit.wordpress.com/bigcats
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93 Responses to “Announcement: Lion vs Tiger”
Tiger is a stripped big cats it is national animal of more than 10 countries it is very beautiful animal in the world it is most important part of the food chain it is the biggest bigcat in the world the panthera tigris the biggest of biggest bigcat of the felidee family it is the biggest bigcat in the felidee family and in the world its hieght it is3.3m long and weight is300 k.g and the second biggest big cat is also the member of felidee family which name is lion the panthera leo in asia.both tiger and lion is living in asia.
I have read an article or news about tiger killing lion prides.A certain Sumatran tiger kills three male African lions,6 lionesses and their cubs,I mean a whole pride.Sumatran tiger killed them inside 30 seconds and the tiger got some few wounds but not critical.
My grandfather told me all about the tiger skills and I am so sad about the lions.He says no one could beat tiger even a dragon,tiger is most superior animal in the planet.And he told me also about the fight of Sumatran tiger and Barbary lion.The lion is bigger and the Sumatran looks like a cub but in 5 seconds the Sumatran tiger gained the victory over the healthy bigger ferocious lion.
“simbakid”
but it is very unfortunate that now “Sumatran tigers’ endangered, they’ll meet the same fate with” Javanese tigers “and” balis tiger ”
both are only stories,,, this is very sad
You’ve overlooked some important facts, in particular initiative.
There is not a lot separating these cats in fighting ability and a large percentage of times it’s the cat that makes the first move will often gain the advantage. The Lion is more aggressive and more likely to make a first move.
Secondly some of your facts don’t agree with some of those I have seen, one being the canines are actually the same size for both cats, also generally tigers are considered to be around 40 pounds larger than lions and not the huge 90 pound advantage you have given.
Thirdly you have overlooked the social advantage a lion gets living with a pride that may contain more than 1 male lion, vs a tiger living a solo life. The concept of one on one fair fighting is a human concept only, in the wild this concept is silly nonsense that will see you dead. It’s highly doubtful that a Tiger would take on a lion pride, and if so would lose out to greater numbers. Therefore in the wild the Lion would and does dominate.
My grandfather is not a liar,and I am now 15 years old and have a lot of knowledge about animal’s behavior.tigers fight like a domestic cat and a lions are just like a dog.Tigers have an ability in punching just like a boxer.However the lions know nothing about punching they only bites and bites and biting is not important in a fight.And if the fight is boxing tiger will own the fight because lion’s paws are too weak and I can prove this because I have an experience how weak is the lion’s paw,yeah I got scratches but seems I haven’t feel it.And the tiger’s paws could kill elephants.
simbakid I am sorry to say but your granddaddy is a lying son of a gun.I have seen a lion. And not one of your crappy queen of the jungle homoerotic pussy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and stuff. Don’t pull your wierd ass african voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don’t even know wtf you’re talking about.
Ok let’s tone it down please. Simbakid is just relaying what he has been told and what he has experienced for himself. The Pride killing -if it happened may or may not have been a fluke. There might have also been extinuating circumstances such as the Pride being ill. In a tight knit community such as a Pride if one is sick usually it will spread like Mad Cow disease with cattle. I would never presume to call someone a liar without proof. Strange thingsdo happen. Traditionally lions are recognised as the king of the beast. Yes he may be smaller than some tigers but there is more to being king than size. Take Napoleon for example. Emporer and conqourer of Europe yet a small man. It’s traditionally not your size that count but rather what you can do with what you have. If it were a situation of African Lion vs. Bengal Tiger I would have to statistically give the match to the Bengal Tiger. Fortunately fate often doesnt read the statistics before a match. Hince Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas. Also, many an upset during past Superbowls.
I checked with my friend who’s son was a famous cat trainer. He said, tigers will win most of the fights (if no all), especially when it comes to femal tigers (they have really bad temper). Tigers are much faster than lions — such as cats vs dogs. Can a dog stand any chance to fight against the same size of cat? … besides, if it’s in the wild, tigers can climb, can swim, and run faster, … at least no problem running away if defeated.
The fanboyism here is outstanding. 90% of what is written lacks source. The tiger can’t survive in the lion’s environment. it’s been proven many times over – check youtube. So how is the tiger “more agile”. The fact that he is bigger and heavier contradicts that false statement. Tiger very very rarely fight to death, or even fight at all. Because if a tiger get injured, even if it’s nothing serious, that may prevent him from efficient hunting and will starve to death. Tigers are smart and know that, that’s why they are more likely to escape a meaningless fight rather than fight to death. The lion fights without taking care of his body so much. He is known for jumping to 3 lions at once. Will a tiger do that? No. The tiger has bigger teeth but that means nothing next to the lion’s mane. Because the tiger kills by biting the neck and suffocating the victim. Which isn’t viable against the lion because of its protective mane. The lion experiences more fights than a Tiger, so he’s much more experienced in inflicting and receiving pain. The tiger lands faster hits but the lion’s paw attack is stronger because he focuses everything on it while the tiger just swipes with the intent of scare and intimidation more than with the intent of killing. Also there was a Discovery (or animal?) show (face-off?) where the lion is proven a better and stronger fighter than the tiger – all with fully supported arguments. And what was that shit about a tiger killing a pride in 30 seconds? Of course its a LIE, are you inane? I can kill 5 prides in 10 seconds. 1 second each. In the other 5 seconds I will have already devoured them. don’t call me a liar now, you can’t prove what I say wrong!!! awesome logic. whatever keep fanboying.
educate yourselves bitches! Tiger was known as bad killer,then can kill dragon,dinosaur,shark,whale,elephant,anaconda.And the bible said that the tiger will rule the world someday.Don’t get me wrong,you better to watch videos at youtube.com by the koreans’ caught tiger vs lion fight………………………
Yeah my name says it all, Just another way of seeing why the male lion out shines the male tiger.
Look what happens when a male tiger mates with a female lion,
They produce a tigon, Now the tigon, Is said to be smaller than a tiger and lion(320-400pounds), An has little love for the water, Also he is said to dislike other cats making him solitare like the tiger not social like the lion with his appeal looking like a ugliyer version of the golden tabby.They also said his top speed is at 45 mph slower than lions an tigers,
Tigons have inhertited so crappy of genes that he shrunk,became weaker,slower,uglier,stupider than tigers an lions an looks even like a jaguar or leopard can kill him now being he dosent climb or can swim limits his survival.
Now for the male lions genes, Being passed threw a female tiger is a different storie.The liger is said to be doble the size of the parents reaching maxed weight of (1600 pounds) even bigger than the worlds biggest grizzley bear an is equivilent to four average sized asiatic lions, he has speed that maxed out at 50-60 mph, making him more agile an faster than both parents.now for his traits he has great love for the water an they said looks like ligers are even better swimmers than tigers, traits from both parents and he loves kicking it with lions so ligers have social traits.
Hercules is the worlds famous liger at 950 pounds an his brother hobb at 1300 pounds is few that grow manes but looks FUCKING AWSOME!!!! they said ligers have stronger swipes even of grizzleys an polars bears an contour to there weight, they have estimated his power to be 6x that of a male lion an tiger .Lastly they have been seen rarely as in the 1700s an before that where they coexisited locals,viligers an small towns folks have claims of seeing ligers way way back then, So in general the liger has been around a long time so tiger fans get it threw your heads ligers are the worlds biggest an strongest cats idiots.
LOL,
If you think a male lion cant kill a tiger, than tell that to hobi the tiger who was killed by chongii the lion in jeonji zoo, also other zoos like czech an liberch zoo same thing happened lions killed tigers easily.
Its beyound me why tiger fans think they are invincible an can get fan boy appraisel of 7 times out of 10 the tiger will win when they have lost already the shit lode of times, LMFAO, clyde bettys lion named sultan a nubian lion was pitted 1 on 1 with over 7 differnt tigers an won with each tiger either submitting, running away or meeting death them selves.
There are even video facts on youtube showing a lion killed the tiger in india, Where that lion was an asiatic lion, Smaller than a african lion. Than look up lion kills tiger 30 times on youtube, They show some videos that tiger fans edit out the full scenes of the lion winning just to put there favarite on top WOW!! Thats pathetic
And the list goes on an on, In accounts that lions have killed tigers already,
the only time they show tigers winning are on female lions and small unexperinced teen male lions in pit fights, an in the wild 1 on 1 is astrinomical due to prides.
The FACTs will always remain, Lions have prides tigers are solotairy hunters.
Prides are the whole reason why they would dominate tigers where ever they reside in the wild , The largest band of tigers recorded was 3 brothers staying with each other till dieing of old age in china but tigers are always solo so thats 1, A small pride is around 7-12 lions the worlds record of most lions in a pride is 30 in africa. So 1 tiger cant take on 12 lions an no 3 tigers can take on 30 lions they will simply get mauled.
And NO!! the title King of the beast, King of the jungle, king of the animal kingdom wasent given to him just because of his mane, Statues an art have male lions wearing a Crown so wouldent that imply he now has two crowns if his mane was already considered a crown.
Right off the back male tigers are drifters an abandin there cubs to the females so he cannot be given the title King, As a king would never abandin his kingdom there for he has no kingdom so still cant be called a king.
Not inheriting a kingdom but,To be dubbed king way back then you had to prove yourself worthy of leadership to your people an go threw trials proving you are strong,loyal,smart,have honor,respect for your people, an way more things to even be dubbed king like King Leonitis King Kahn, King Arther, King Kamehameha an way more had to prove themselves before given there titles King.
Oh an simba kid,
your 15 years old you dont know anything yet about the matter. besides beliving what your granpa is telling you about a tiger killing a dragon, lmao isint that a hint that its bullshit dragons never existed next youll be telling everyone godzilla blew up japan.
You should tell your granpa to come an debate appearltly you cant, because all though your just a kid you already are insulting people with bad words an this is a place to debate not get mad just because people are saying your gramps is a idiot an is making shit up without evidence or resorces to prove stories that are too obviously bullshit.
An what bible are you reading? Tigers will over come humans when there are only around 40 thousand tigers left on this planet, An about 8 billion humans oh I forgot your 15 YEARS OLD, You dont even know the differnce of those type of big numbers yet.
Hey Animal lover,
Next time, try yo stay factual instead of making up your own shit.
Everthing i read was bullshit an show very poorly your resorces are,The biggest lions were 2 spaid brothers reached 950 pounds in a sanctuary look it up by typing 900 pound lions in google.
You stated that lions dont have much competion, Are you on drugs, Africa has the most A list predtors an killers in the world. Not just hyenas idiot! Africa too has leopards, wild dogs who are similar to wolves because of traveling in packs. And africa has herds of animal numbers beyound any piece of land on earth,Which has thousands of thousands of animals migrate an always have numbers to better drive off lion prides, alone a tiger would be stomped with over welming numbers.
Water buffalo an cape buffalo travel in large groups , Sometimes intimidate an kill a few lions them selves so a lone tiger will have no chance of stealing a young calf without getting hurt or killed from bull buffalo who arnt easily intimidated with numbers.
Hippos,Giraffes,Elephants an Rhinos are also present in africa idiot! An they too, Have very bad tempers when approached by any oppsing threat an I never heard of a tiger killing adult ones ever!Only small calfs.
Tigers kill crocs once in a while like lions do rarly on land, But crocs in africa are in groups as well, So good luck with tigers swimming in water holes, That are infested with crocs an would easily rip the tiger to shreds as do to all that venture in there water holes.
Africa also has Hyenas mandrills an baboons, Who steel an eat lion cubs once in a while so since tigers are solitary an alone always! The chances that tiger cubs will reach adult hood would slim even greater,Being picked off occaisionaly by every animal in africa,leopards an cheetahs have contoured to africas threats, Because they run 90 percent of the time even if there cubs are at stake,To where tigers wouldent, Even greatering the chances that a whole pack of hyenas,lion prides,hippos,crocs an any other animal whos known for killing cubs would wound or kill a tiger 100% of the time.
A lion vs a tiger in man made settings of a pit fight is 50/50
A lion vs a tiger in the wild is 100/0
1 tiger vs 10 lions on average lion leaves tiger in peices
3 tigers vs 30 lions at greatest lions leaves tigers in peices.
Animal lover,
The fact that people say manes dont help was exploited hundreds of years already shown by studying lions with no manes an ones that have overly grown huge manes. they show that on impact of paul swipes an bashes, lessens 70 percent of impact an absorbs most of the blows, Meaning they wont feel any thing at at all an that same thing contours to how a tiger would have to kill a lion the chances on the things they count on are slashing the throat and biting the throat, is 70% in favor of the lion on basic terms of his mane alone.
You stated size does matter, What?
Are you fucking kidding me, They are only shy a few pounds, Attributes that are basically the same if size was the only factor in fights, Than why do some wolverines, Who weigh (40 pounds) kill polar bears, Who weigh (1700 pound) once in a while, by latching them selves to the bears neck an slashing there throats. why do gung fu martial artist who weigh 100 pounds kill 270 pound weight lifters by kicking them in the throat then. You stated pitbulls are bad examples when 45 pound pitbulls have killed dogs in ranges from 100 to 200 pounds an soley intended for being man stoppers an game animal hunters an killers in general, huh?
You people are pathetic. The chicken shit Tiger overpowers the smaller asiatic lion and couldn’t last a second with the larger more aggressive African Lion. You lot seem to have a bias towards the Tiger because you are probably from the Asia but I’m neutral and say unequivocally that your soft passive aggressive Tiger will simply pur when faced with a battle tested adult African lion.
alright people, get things straight. One on One, a tiger would dominate a lion 9 out of ten times.the most prestigous lion expert in the world said that one on one a tiger would win.look up «iger versus lion» on google and nine out of ten siteswilltell you tigers wil win. Siberian tigers hunt freaking brown bears alone. A whole pride of lions wouldnt face a brown bear. The myth that lions fight and dont hunt and tigers hunt and dont fight is untrue. A tiger will fight more often than a lion over its lifetime and a lion will hunt for itself quite frequently. A tiger is stronger has more stamina and is more cunning than a lion. And has anyone actually looked up actual fights? Not those bullcrap videos on youtube. Tigers almost always win. The ancient Romans had three tigers fight four lions at the Coliseum and the tigers always won. Oh, FYI the reason ligers are awesome and tigons suck is because ligers take after their mothers genes.
Everyone who has posted comments has blindly overlooked the facts. I personally like Lions, but a male Siberian or Bengal Tiger in optimum health will simply outfight an African lion if provoked. And the lions mane can help, but people have SEEN tigers kill lions other ways. A tiger at a zoo killed a lion by severing it’s jugular with one paw stroke. Also, in fights, tigers and lions often attack their opponents legs, spine, face and skull. Also, in one fight Charles Darwin saw, a tiger practically disemboweled a lion READ YOUR HISTORY! TIGERS ALMOST ALWAYS WIN. There was a fight between a battle tested African Lion and a battle tested Bengal Tiger and the tiger ripped the lion to shreds. CASE CLOSED!
Alright, these comments keep getting better and better as I read them. And by “better” I mean more biased. Alright, liger=god of beasts, your analogy of a martial arts expert and a weight lifter is actually accurate. The tiger actually uses that thing between its ears called a “brain” and fights with SKILL. It uses tactics, like keeping it’s head back and actually trying to dodge blows. Add this to the fact that the tiger is actually bigger, heavier, and stronger and this is looking to be a pretty one-sided fight, huh? The lion, meanwhile, fights like the weight lifter. It rushes blindly into battle and delivers huge punches with a lot of power, but it is slow in delivering these blows and is not as agile as a tiger. A tiger might seem timid and might run away from a fight that is pointless, but that is only because, again, it uses its brain. Its not going to fight a pointless fight. But if it has to fight, like in a life-and-death situation, its extremely ferocius.
Most video that I have seen between lions & tigers (with the exception of biased edited video), the lion wins! tigers are great cats second only to the lion. Tigers are bigger but they lack the mane that a lion has. Lions are the protectors of the pride so their bred or their nature is to fight not hunt, they are fighters & killers & seem to be more ferocious in most exchanges between lions & tigers. While tigers are predators & their aggression is mostly based on a kill to eat. Tigers are built for predatory reason while lions are built & made to fight & kill by nature. Both animals take down much larger prey even tho the tigers might take down larger prey which is in their nature their make up isn’t to fight much larger aggressive animals or even in some instances smaller animals or really any animals…their predators. I will never forget the video that I watched on youtube.com in which a tiger & I believe a leopard did battle & the leopard gave that tiger all he could handle, pretty even fight while a lion would anihilate a leopard. If you artificially match up a tiger, lion battle by shaving a lions mane yes the tiger might defeat the lion but all & all a lion would come out on top if they go to war with both lion & tiger if you did not shave his man
You bitches you dont know nothing you crack me up yaw are just fucking bitches
liger= god of beast you are a asshole
ay i beleive you simbakid i love tigers like crazy it says it in my name i just dont beleive you on the dragon its not even real it never was if you thought it was real than your a asshole ok
Look tiger lover i am a tiger lover to but you need to stop with the cursing you just cursing cursing cursing your just calling people ass holes for nothing dude look is your name curser because you keep cursing
and why do i have the same icon as you
supernovah, you have obviously been watching biased fights on youtube. Even with a mane, a tiger will win most of the time. Lions are NOT breed exclusively to fight, they hunt for themselves. And tigers fight more often than lions do, because their shrinking range means more conflicts over territory. TIGERS ARE FIGHTERS, MORE SO THAN LIONS!!!!!!!! A tiger can kill a lion easily, even with a mane. Have you actually looked up documented tiger versus lion fights? AGAIN READ YOUR HISTORY! THE TIGER WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
when it comes to fight,tigers are more skillful.siberian tigers are biggest and probably strongest in this planet.but it’s intellect that matters.when it comes to intellect and hunting skills the bengal tigers are best in the world.if an african lion and a bengal tiger fight 100 times in open place,still it would be probably in favour of tigers.and if they fight in dense forest with lots of bush ,i am sure bengal tigers will beat african lion 100 times.
since i am from west bengal,india,and have read lots about our tigers,i can bet these tigers are greediest and have thieve like characteristics-they often comes in village areas from their territory of sundarban.and through their intellect they often beat human intellect-kill domestic animals,even poor villagers.and if siberian tigers fight with bengal tigers in region with dense forest,bengal tiger will easily beat siberian tiger.but if a siberian tiger fights in it’s own terrritory the outcome might be different.
@Tiger lover
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Every person hear is an ass hole. Why would ever cair about this. Due to simmalar size, I expect that the two would be about equal. The loin has the mane and that covers the neck and windpipe. That spot it exactaly where the tiger goes to kill prey. And the lion does hit slower than the tiger with its paws but it also hits alot harder. And the liger could probably kill both of them easly if there were such things as wild ligers because they simply dwarf both cats. Ya and simbakid, you are retarded if you think that a tiger could walk in and kill a lion pride in less then a minute. A alpha lion would probably mach up with it and start fighting. Then more lions would come in and attack the flanks of a lion. And all of you bitches that are insalting simbakid’s grandfauther, back the fuck up. That is crossing the line no matter what he said. Only a son of a bitch insaults someones family. And also, the tiger has a HUGE weakness, sometings, it will not attack a person that is staring it smack ing the eye. This made indian’s wear masks on the back of there head and that sometimes made the tiger not attack. Both animals are infinetly awesome and I do not have a preference to one of them. Many of you people do not know what shit you are saying. They are both awesome and the winner in a fight would be the one that has the suprize advantage or the one in its territory. sampan obviousy loves the bengal tiger and is to bling to see that a siberian tiger could destroy it. The most awesome big cat ever would defenetly be the smilodon fatalis. It would shred an african lion, bengal tiger or siberan tiger. If you think that you know everything about big cats just because of myths and legands, do some reasherch. We will talk then and see if you are not biased.
you are clearly not an animal expert. The tiger will not win every time and there is so many verabals that you have to controll before you get a real fight. And I know that you are not an expert because if you were you would be trying to help your favored tigers in the real world. In nature, the two animals bearly cross paths so who cares who would win. It will not change your life. What a pitiful little man you are. And the same goes to all of you. If you cair so much about these animals, than go outside, try to find a job that will help these creatures from going extinct. Or you can go to different websites and try to convinse other lazy slobs to do something. You people are probably just obeast 20 year olds that have no job and are still living in you mothers basement playing something retarded like pokemon or yogeo or some mideval computer game. GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS WOURLD OR SIT BACK AND RELAX WHACING SPUNGEBOB EATING CHIPS ALL FUCKING DAY! You son of a bitches discust me.
lol another tiger fan site. Frankly this site sucks tiger ass. Bunch of facts twisted to show the tiger as superior. You show know that no matter what the size of the tiger it cannot win against a male lion except in rare cases. There are lots of proof to that.
tiger vs lion
winner depends on whether you’re from Asia or Europe/Africa.
Tiger wins because Asians are more in number. They are passionate towards making the tiger the winner and hence a victory for Asia…
Am I right?
Another fact is that it is always easy to recognize a tiger fan site. Lack of truthful facts, some fake videos and really bad language… Its blatantly obvious even to a neutral…
Daniel, if you actually read my comment, you’d know that I didn’t say tigers will always win. I said tiger’s will ALMOST always win. Big difference. However, YOU do your research and then tell me that tigers will not win almost every time. Any way, no, i do not live in my mom’s basement, I am not obese, and I do care about tigers. That’s why I’ve donated to foundations that try to save the tiger. I’m not a pitiful man, and I don’t play pokemon or yugeo or some medieval computer game. I am simply trying to have an educated discussion about a hypothetical scenario on a website and am trying to make an argument. You’re right, it won’t change my life. Does that mean I can’t make an argument? We don’t need profane language. Don’t say not to insult someone’s family and then start cussing at everyone. YOU disgust ME. Do you have something better to do than filling a website with profanity and random accusations against people you don’t know at all? Obviously not. Anyway, for the last time, DO YOUR RESEARCH AND THEN COMMENT! TIGERS WILL ALMOST ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!!
Stan, do your freaking research. What are you, thirteen? find those proofs. I’ll spare you the trouble and tell you that you can’t. What you’ll find is that TIGERS will always win except in a few cases. Also, the bad language here is at least 50/50 between tiger and lion fans. If you people won’t believe ME, then go to other websites. Most will say tigers will win. Ask experts. Again they will mostly say tigers will win.
BIP YOU BIP lions would totally kick a tigers BIP anyday.
Have you seen animal face off BIP.
HEY ALL YOU TIGER BIPS YOU DONT NO WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
LIONS WILL HAVE TIGERS SUCKING THERE BIPS!
Yeah i have sen animal faceoff. Did you realize that is a simulation? thats just what supposed experts think. have you read about actual fights?
lets get this straight
most of the time tiger will win.only if he is not fighting a lion from a pride.lion from a pride is more agressive and trying to prove that he is the king.tiger only fights to kill and eat and he is not looking to eat a lion.tiger is smart and will only fight if he think he can win.lion dont care about the outcome.thats why they dont fight that much in wild.fights setup by man …..tiger will win because he has no choice but to fight.plus lion is not at 100% because he is out of his surroundings.real fight will be if tiger try to hunt a lion cub in wild and lion see it.that will be a fight.like a chicken tiger will run away
1. Lion Vs Tiger would be like putting a hothead against somewhat (well considerably) skilled fighter..Of course the skilled fighter (tiger) is more likely to win.
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2. Scientific Logic = More muscle (muscle Fibers) = more power . This MORE POWER + AGILITY = deadly combination. Surely , tiger has it more than lion so here Tiger is more likely to win.
3. Tigers can fight standing on both hind legs giving them an advantage of using both front paws simultaneously while lions are unable to do that more . So here advantage goes to the tiger .
4. Several people claim that lion is protected by its MANE ..but then they hate to answer the question that — So far all the lions that have been killed by tigers ; why weren’t they saved by their so called protective gear aka MANE O_O ?.. REASON –> Tigers are smarter and more skilled ..they know where to attack in order to finish its opponent..!
5. People say that Lions fight with other lions in order to protect their pride or take over other Lion’s pride forcefully so they have a better Fighting experience —— EXCUSE ME O_O what they don’t realize is that a lion fights other lion ; technically speaking of, which is not skilled as a Tiger; so how will this fight experience help him counter a Tiger’s skill O_O.
6. A tiger have known to kill GAUR or The Indian Bison, Bull water buffalo , crocodile too -__- ALONE ,..i have yet to see that in Lions ..
7. Lions are more courageous and stubborn than tigers, but never should a tiger be underestimated. A tiger is more reluctant to fight so as to avoid any injury since it has to hunt all alone.
8. Search the internet , all expert favor tiger ..they say a tiger is more likely to win not because they are biased but because they offer some logical POINTS in favor of a TIGER..please note that it is said that ” MORE LIKELY ” not ALWAYS win
9. Of all the videos on internet that i have gone through Tigers have emerged victorious ..-__- ..well Lion lovers can keep their opinion but saying that tigers are pussies or they fight like chickens doesn’t make sense ..For example if your father is trying to avoid a pointless fight and backs off doesn’t mean he’s a pussy ..He is just being WISE
10. I am an animal lover and wildlife FAN ..I’ve been watching wildlife since when i was 2yrs ..i have read numerous articles on net and gained a lot of info about wild animals .. To be honest i love both BIG CATS ..BUT i thought people that simply ignore the statistics and facts should be introduced with some reality…
AT LAST A TIGER MAY HAVE MORE CHANCES OF WINNING (THE SCORE COULD GO LIKE 80 out of 100 or even 51 out of 100 , but the point is tigers have higher probability of winning)
RE : EDIT
POINT 8.–> * MORE EXPERTS * (not–> all experts)
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OF those who think Siberian Tigers will definitely WIN or have even more better chances of winning than normal Bengal tiger ..i got something for you guys too ..
1. Siberian Tigers are more bulky than Bengal tigers but they have body fat ..not muscle mass that makes them huge ..
2. Siberian Tigers are known to be very shy and timid ..in one of the documentary it is shown that a Siberian tiger abandons his “KILL” just because of the stationary camera .. while on the other hand Bengal tigers are also shy but not as much as Siberian tigers ..
3. B. Tigers have developed a bad reputation for killing humans ..while an Amur tiger rarely attacks human…
4. I am sure that all of you have seen that Bengal Tigress attacks man on an elephant video ..gives a proof of agility, skills and power of Bengal tigers ..
Listen people …
Don’t just simply say Lions are MORE AGGRESSIVE than tigers ..aggressiveness cannot be measured or quantified so don’t behave like NOOBS..Tigers have been documented in wild very very less as compared to African Lions , so its quite obvious that you may have seen lions fight more than tigers , In fact on discovery or nat geo its always the Lions in wildlife ..very few times i have seen Tigers documented and most of those docs are OLD ..
plus some stupids also say that lions keep fighting their whole life and their fights result in severe injury or death…like seriously …that’s a baseless assumption or must i say IGNORANCE..in fact most of the fights end when one of the opponent backs off or runs away …
PLUS ..Lion is king of the jungle is just a saying ..lions live in grasslands not jungles ..
plus if you guys have some logical points in favor of a Lion ..do let me know ..i would love to consider ‘em..
I only recently became interested in seeing which of the great cats would win in a fight. However, so far everything I have looked at and read states that Tigers will win most fights. Tigers have more developed muscles in their front and hind quarters allowing them to “box” stand on their hind legs and fight with both of their front paws which on average are larger than that of a lion. The average wild tiger from what I’ve read weighs around 517 lbs while the average African lion is around 410-415 lbs. Tigers also seem to fight much more often then a Lion as in a Tigers territory it fights with wolves, leopards, brown bears and others that I forgot(my apologies). Lions don’t have very much competition, there’s hyenas but since Lions live in prides this isn’t really a threat to them. Oh yes and I almost forgot, Tigers do have a slightly larger skull actually a lion’s and tiger’s skull are almost identical, however, studies show that even just slightly larger skull size greatly increases the bite force. I always thought that lions were the larger more powerful cats but from what I’ve been seeing I was quite mistaken. (glad I kept my mouth shut till I did some research)